Legislature(2015 - 2016)GRUENBERG 120

03/14/2016 12:30 PM House JUDICIARY

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12:32:30 PM Start
12:33:45 PM HB205
03:02:00 PM Adjourn
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        HB 205-CRIMINAL LAW/PROCEDURE; DRIV LIC; PUB AID                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:33:45 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 205, "An  Act relating to conditions  of release;                                                               
relating to community  work service; relating to  credit toward a                                                               
sentence  of imprisonment  for certain  persons under  electronic                                                               
monitoring;   relating   to   the   restoration   under   certain                                                               
circumstances  of an  administratively revoked  driver's license,                                                               
privilege to drive, or privilege  to obtain a license; allowing a                                                               
reduction  of  penalties  for offenders  successfully  completing                                                               
court-  ordered  treatment  programs  for  persons  convicted  of                                                               
driving  under  the  influence;  relating  to  termination  of  a                                                               
revocation of  a driver's license;  relating to restoration  of a                                                               
driver's  license;  relating  to  credits toward  a  sentence  of                                                               
imprisonment,  to  good time  deductions,  and  to providing  for                                                               
earned  good time  deductions for  prisoners;  relating to  early                                                               
termination  of probation  and reduction  of  probation for  good                                                               
conduct; relating  to the  rights of  crime victims;  relating to                                                               
the disqualification of persons  convicted of certain felony drug                                                               
offenses  from  participation in  the  food  stamp and  temporary                                                               
assistance   programs;  relating   to   probation;  relating   to                                                               
mitigating   factors;   relating   to  treatment   programs   for                                                               
prisoners;  relating  to  the  duties   of  the  commissioner  of                                                               
corrections;  amending   Rule  32,   Alaska  Rules   of  Criminal                                                               
Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX described  HB  205  as "probably  one  of the  most                                                               
significant bills,  certainly for  House Judiciary,  and probably                                                               
for the entire legislature this session."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:34:26 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER moved  to adopt CS for HB  205, labeled 29-                                                               
LS0896\H,  Martin/Gardner,  3/10/16,  as  the  working  document.                                                               
There being no objection, Version H was before the committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:35:18 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT thanked  numerous  individuals for  their                                                               
assistance with HB  205 as the committee would like  to see fewer                                                               
Alaskans in prison  due to the 27 percent increase  over the last                                                               
10  years.   The  intent  is  to  determine how  to  rehabilitate                                                               
individuals  who have  committed crimes,  and invest  in them  so                                                               
they don't  reoffend and  return to  prison, thereby,  causing an                                                               
increase   in  the   Department  of   Correction's  budget,   and                                                               
ultimately building  another prison  in a few  years.   She noted                                                               
that a  year ago  Governor Bill  Walker, the  Alaska Legislature,                                                               
and the Alaska Court System  requested assistance from the Alaska                                                               
Criminal Justice  Commission, and  before this committee  are the                                                               
commission's 21 recommendations  that HB 205 is based  upon.  The                                                               
key goals are implementing  an evidence-based pre-trial practice,                                                               
focus on prison beds for  serious and violent offenders, and look                                                               
at  the  individuals  in the  state's  prison  population,  which                                                               
includes  folks who  have not  victimized people,  misdemeanants,                                                               
people  with  parole  violations,  and the  population  runs  the                                                               
gamut.   She pointed  out that this  bill attempts  to strengthen                                                               
probation and  parole supervision when  people get out  of prison                                                               
and then   they  return to  prison within one  year.   The report                                                               
considers methods  of successful reentry into  communities as the                                                               
goal  is  for  rehabilitation,  and that  the  state  would  gain                                                               
savings.    She  stated,  "I  really  ...  I  am  going  to  miss                                                               
Representative  Gruenberg.    Through  this process  I  had  many                                                               
spirited debates  with Representative Gruenberg about  this bill,                                                               
and  about portions  of  this bill.   And  he  had so  graciously                                                               
offered to help  carry it on the  floor, and I will  miss him for                                                               
that because  he had a depth  of knowledge that ...  you know, no                                                               
one can compare  to, and his passion for this  subject.  So, with                                                               
a little bit  of heartache today, I'm glad  to see Representative                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins is  here.  And  I know Max  is looking down  at us                                                               
right  now, and  at moments  in  time I'm  sure many  of us  will                                                               
channel some of his questions and  some of his attitudes toward a                                                               
perfect bill."   She  opined that  in taking  the bill,  piece by                                                               
piece, the  committee will have  a re-write of  Alaska's criminal                                                               
justice  system,   and  there  will  be   opportunities  for  re-                                                               
investment that  are meaningful to  everyone in  keeping Alaskans                                                               
out of jail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:40:51 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER,  in speaking  as  a  commissioner of  the                                                               
Alaska  Criminal   Justice  Commissioner,  emphasized   that  the                                                               
commission consists  of an  impressive group  of people,  such as                                                               
prosecuting  attorneys,  defense attorneys,  corrections,  mental                                                               
health, the  attorney general assisted,  and the  Alaska Judicial                                                               
Council administered the commission and  were also engaged in the                                                               
process.   He noted he may  be leaving people out,  but his point                                                               
is  that there  were  many meetings  and  the commissioners  were                                                               
always  there working  on the  issues.   He  emphasized that  the                                                               
commissioners'   expertise  far   surpasses  anything   he  could                                                               
contribute to the  bill, and that he  was there as a  layman.  It                                                               
is justice reinvestment  because there is money to  be saved, and                                                               
he said  he was appalled  by the population increase  in pretrial                                                               
lockups  that   can  be  dealt   with  administratively.     This                                                               
legislation is just  a step in that it is  an ongoing maintenance                                                               
step and it  doesn't solve all the problems, but  it sure makes a                                                               
good start, he stated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:43:04 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  pointed out  that "This is  the first  meeting that                                                               
we've had  without Representative  Gruenberg and it  hardly seems                                                               
real that  we are conducting  a Judiciary Committee  meeting with                                                               
... without  him.  We  hope that we  will be channeling,  not the                                                               
rabbit hole  questions, but some  of the really, really  good and                                                               
insightful questions that he always had."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:44:50 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN commented that  this bill affects many people                                                               
and that his major overall concern  is that it is an omnibus bill                                                               
with a laundry list of everything  in the justice system,  In the                                                               
event one  portion of  the bill  is not agreed  upon, he  said he                                                               
would hate to see it go down in flames.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:46:15 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  SELL, Lieutenant,  Juneau Police  Department, advised  that                                                               
she is a Lieutenant in the  Juneau Police Department and the Vice                                                               
President  of  the  Alaska  Peace   Officers  Association.    She                                                               
emphasized that she  is speaking solely as a  commissioner of the                                                               
Alaska Criminal  Justice Commission.   The commission is  made up                                                               
of people who do  not usually get together in the  same room in a                                                               
non-adversarial sense,  because it includes attorneys,  judges, a                                                               
defense    attorney,    law    enforcement,    victims'    rights                                                               
representatives, and  others.   She admitted  that for  the first                                                               
year on  the commission  she mentally had  her arms  crossed over                                                               
her chest the entire time because  she did not want anyone out of                                                               
jail.  She  advised that she became a police  officer because she                                                               
wanted to  be tough on crime,  to protect people, she  would risk                                                               
herself  to do  it, and  found  herself believing  that the  only                                                               
criminal she  could trust was one  in prison.  It  was a hardened                                                               
view,  she acknowledged,  until  the  commission began  reviewing                                                               
studies with  the science of  corrections and it made  sense with                                                               
things she  had seen  in the  field, such  as arresting  the same                                                               
person over and over again,  and finding them becoming more anti-                                                               
social  each time,  more detached  from the  community, and  more                                                               
dangerous to her  and the other officers working  in the streets.                                                               
She said she could see  disenfranchising happening as people went                                                               
through  the system,  and she  also saw  people begging  for help                                                               
with drug, alcohol, and mental  health problems.  Yet, she noted,                                                               
these  people were  not  receiving  help in  the  system.   While                                                               
walking  through the  jails she  saw inmates  watching television                                                               
and  playing cards,  people she  knew to  have serious  problems,                                                               
addiction problems,  or possibly  not even  literate and  able to                                                               
obtain a law abiding  job if they wanted one.   I struck her that                                                               
serious work needed  to be done by these people  who were sitting                                                               
around  napping   and  watching  television  rather   than  being                                                               
confronted with the  things that they needed to deal  with to get                                                               
better, she said.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:50:04 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL described her process  as painful as she knew she                                                               
had to start acknowledging there  was something to the science of                                                               
corrections.   "Tough on  Crime" worked really  well for  a while                                                               
because it  brought down crime  rates, but the  investment wasn't                                                               
what everyone  expected it to be.   She pointed out  that she had                                                               
testified [prior  to her work  on the commission]  against making                                                               
any drug  possession a  misdemeanor, and  that she  still doesn't                                                               
like that  bill because  it didn't  have the  reinvestment piece.                                                               
She pointed  to the issue  of, "if people  are not in  jail, then                                                               
where?"   People need  treatment or  supervision or  something to                                                               
help  reintegrate  themselves  back   into  law  abiding  society                                                               
because many  times just taking  their word  for it won't  do it.                                                               
She referred  to the Alaska  Criminal Justice  Commission report,                                                               
agreed that it  may need some changes, and  stated the commission                                                               
will not take  the changes personally.  It is  a massive piece of                                                               
legislation and it  took the commission years to  go through [the                                                               
data, studies  and research].   The intention  is to  save enough                                                               
money  to make  the reinvestment  meaningful and,  she cautioned,                                                               
during these tough  economic times to not adopt  the bill without                                                               
the  reinvestment  piece  because   if  the  bill  just  shortens                                                               
incarceration  the  legislature  will   have  taken  the  current                                                               
revolving door  and made  it spin faster.   She  reiterated there                                                               
must be  meaningful addressing  of why  people start  engaging in                                                               
crime, which is what makes this bill work.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:53:17 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRENDA   STANFILL,   Commissioner,    Alaska   Criminal   Justice                                                               
Commission,  advised she  works with  the Interior  Alaska Center                                                               
for Non-Violent Living  in Fairbanks, and she  is not necessarily                                                               
speaking for the center although  her board strongly supports her                                                               
involvement in this  issue.  She advised that it  was a challenge                                                               
to come into  the commission and take away  her pre-formed ideas,                                                               
thereby hearing what was being  said and addressing those issues.                                                               
The  commission was  asked to  perform  a data-driven,  evidence-                                                               
based process because previously the  data was based upon outrage                                                               
and things that didn't go  right, and trying to criminalize their                                                               
way out of social issues.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL noted  that from a victim  advocate's standpoint, it                                                               
was thought  that fixing it  would be  taking someone out  of the                                                               
environment and  putting them  in jail and  during their  time in                                                               
jail they  would have  a realization that  they should  do things                                                               
differently, and would.  Although,  she noted, over the years she                                                               
has  found that  when  people  have this  kind  of behavior  it's                                                               
because that's what they know, and  many times do not know how to                                                               
do  it differently.   When  discussing  pretrial, the  discussion                                                               
must include  the reinvestment  portion as this  is not  a budget                                                               
savings  bill.   She described  the  bill as  a "budget  transfer                                                               
bill" and  saving money  on one  said by  doing something  on the                                                               
other side.   Thereby, she  said, in  the long run  making people                                                               
safer  in  their  communities,   addressing  public  safety,  and                                                               
ultimately there will be less victimization.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:55:34 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL  advised she  was on  the pretrial  subcommittee and                                                               
would  share "the  data that  we used  when we  came out  of each                                                               
recommendation."   She offered the  power point  "Alaska Criminal                                                               
Justice Commission: Justice Reinvestment  Report, House Bill 205:                                                               
Criminal law/procedure; driver's licenses; public aid."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANFILL turned  to  "Recommendation 1:  Expand  the use  of                                                               
citations  in   place  of   arrest  for   lower-level  nonviolent                                                               
offenses" [page 15], and advised  that current statute offers law                                                               
enforcement  the ability  to not  arrest, although  it not  often                                                               
used.   This allows  law enforcement a  greater ability  to think                                                               
through whether  the person is  a risk  to public safety,  and if                                                               
not, they  could issue a citation  with a court date  rather than                                                               
taking them to jail.  When  the commission looked deeply into the                                                               
data  of  Alaska,  it  found  that 76  percent  of  the  pretrial                                                               
admissions to  prisons were for  misdemeanor charges,  56 percent                                                               
of  the  pretrial  admissions  to  prison  were  for  non-violent                                                               
misdemeanor  charges.   The commission  then  focused on  whether                                                               
something could  be changed.   She  said that  81 percent  is the                                                               
growth in  Alaska's pretrial  detainees over  the last  10 years,                                                               
and national research revealed that  if an individual is detained                                                               
more than  24-hours it can  actually lead to worse  outcomes than                                                               
similar  defendants not  detained.   This  change  will create  a                                                               
presumption of  citation for misdemeanors  and class  C felonies,                                                               
excluding   persons   offenses,   domestic   violence   offenses,                                                               
violations  of  release  conditions,  or  offenses  for  which  a                                                               
warrant  or summons  has been  issued.   The commission  realized                                                               
this was  a high  level recommendation  and believe  that through                                                               
the legislative process it would  work through those specifics of                                                               
the presumption.   She offered that much work  has been performed                                                               
on  the Senate  side  to  do additional  carve  outs because  the                                                               
commission did not  have a list of every crime  that was there in                                                               
order to decide which ones should  be carved out.  She said, from                                                               
the victim  advocacy standpoint, they appreciate  the willingness                                                               
of  the  legislature to  really  look  at ascertaining  that  the                                                               
presumptions  are  for  those  people who  truly  can  receive  a                                                               
citation and not impact public safety.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:58:48 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANFILL turned  to  "Recommendation  2: Utilize  risk-based                                                               
release decision-making," and  offered that when a  person is put                                                               
in jail,  most of  the time  it is based  strictly upon  how much                                                               
money they  have as to whether  they are released from  jail.  In                                                               
the  event a  person commits  a high-level  crime but  has means,                                                               
they  are  able to  bail  out.    Therefore,  there has  been  no                                                               
consideration of  their risk  to communities  rather it  has been                                                               
whether  they  can afford  the  bail  schedule.   Currently,  she                                                               
explained, if  a person is  arrested for drunk driving  and taken                                                               
to jail they  do not have to  go before a judge  because they can                                                               
put up  however much money is  on that bail schedule,  and be out                                                               
of jail within  an hour.  Currently, few  crimes actually require                                                               
a person to  see a judge before  being let out of  jail, and this                                                               
recommendation allows  that it  would no  longer be  based solely                                                               
upon  money, but  based upon  risk.   The State  of Alaska  would                                                               
create a risk assessment to decide  who it is that is getting out                                                               
of jail, and  who stays in jail, which will  require work but the                                                               
commission has been given good  examples of things that have been                                                               
done  and  that   "it  appears  we  would   have  some  technical                                                               
assistance to help us do this."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:00:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANFILL advised  that the  recommendation  also includes  a                                                               
grid of  which types of  offenses would be  let out on  their own                                                               
recognizance    with   different    measures   in    place.   The                                                               
recommendation  included going  to a  bond that  is not  cash but                                                               
rather a  performance bond  where a person  agrees to  do certain                                                               
things but  not actually having to  put cash up front.   However,                                                               
she said,  there would be  a cash  collection at the  back-end if                                                               
they violated  the bail, and  the collections unit  would garnish                                                               
paychecks  and  permanent  fund   dividends  to  collect  on  the                                                               
forfeited unsecured  bonds and unpaid victim's  restitution.  She                                                               
related that  the law cannot  allow a person  to get out  of jail                                                               
free  and  if   they  violate  there  are  no   penalties.    The                                                               
recommendation allows people  of lower income to get  out of jail                                                               
as long as  they are not a  risk to public safety.    She pointed                                                               
to the study  performed by the Alaska  Judicial Council revealing                                                               
the disparity  in ethnicity between who  is, and is not,  able to                                                               
make bail.   She said  that 52  percent of defendants  were never                                                               
released during the pretrial period  and the figure is based upon                                                               
a case  file review  by the  Alaska Criminal  Justice Commission.                                                               
The commission  also found  the following:  that the  majority of                                                               
defendants in Alaska with bail of  $500 or more are unable to pay                                                               
it; 36 percent  of individuals with secured bail  under $500 were                                                               
unable to post  bond; 57 percent with secured  bail between $500-                                                               
$1,000  were unable  to post  bond; and  62 percent  with secured                                                               
bail  between  $1,000-$2,500  were  unable to  post  bond.    She                                                               
remarked  that  the money  piece  has  an  impact as  to  whether                                                               
someone can be released pretrial.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:02:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL  turned to  "Recommendation 3:  Implement meaningful                                                               
pretrial supervision," and stressed  the word "meaningful" as the                                                               
recommendation is not  to just let people out of  jail and hoping                                                               
they show  up and not commit  more crimes.  She  pointed out that                                                               
within the risk assessment there  would be a determination of the                                                               
risk  level  and  possibly  put   them  on  a  24/7  program,  or                                                               
electronic monitoring that measures  whether drugs or alcohol are                                                               
in a person's  sweat.  She explained that  this requires creating                                                               
a pretrial program because none  of the pretrial process works if                                                               
there  is no  reinvestment  into a  pretrial  system through  the                                                               
Department  of  Corrections.   Another  suggestion  is  that  the                                                               
Alaska  Court  System  issue court  date  reminders  to  criminal                                                               
defendants because it has been found  in other states that it has                                                               
had  a tremendous  impact on  people showing  up for  their court                                                               
date.  She  related that research found  that restrictive release                                                               
conditions,  such   as  pretrial  supervision  leads   to  better                                                               
outcomes  for  higher risk  offenders,  but  they lead  to  worse                                                               
outcomes for lower  risk defendants.  Therefore,  it is necessary                                                               
to review  all of the requirement  and not offer a  one size fits                                                               
all in pretrial,  and actually craft the legislation  in a manner                                                               
that meets the  needs of those coming out on  pretrial release to                                                               
address public safety.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:04:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANFILL  turned  to "Recommendation  4:  Focus  supervision                                                               
resources  on   high-risk  defendants,"  and  pointed   out  that                                                               
sometimes youthful  offenders do  things they normally  would not                                                               
do, it's a onetime thing,  they are extremely remorseful, and get                                                               
whatever help they  need.  Therefore, the state does  not need to                                                               
focus so  many resources on  people that have other  things going                                                               
on,  but rather  focus resources  on high-risk  defendants.   The                                                               
commission  noted that  "As  we  have gotten  more  tools to  let                                                               
people  out of  jail pretrial,  instead  of just  using those  as                                                               
individual tools we've tended to heap  on top of one another.  So                                                               
you might  require bond, in  addition to  24/7, in addition  to a                                                               
third-party, and  that all  of these together  has made  it where                                                               
people  cannot get  out of  jail."   The recommendation  suggests                                                               
specifically  reviewing what  must  be done  in  order to  assure                                                               
public safety is being addressed.   It also restricts third-party                                                               
custodians  to  conditions where  it  is  not possible  to  offer                                                               
pretrial supervision,  such as  there is  no supervision  in that                                                               
location, or there is no other way  to keep the public safe.  She                                                               
offered that it may be in the  case of a sexual offender where it                                                               
is not so  much about knowing where the person  is at, but rather                                                               
know who  they are with  which many  times would take  the third-                                                               
party eyes  on them.   She pointed  out that  this recommendation                                                               
looks at how to be certain  the state is addressing the condition                                                               
that  each  person  needs.    She  reiterated  that  it  involves                                                               
creating  the pretrial  system, and  [employing] people  with the                                                               
ability to  assess based upon  a structured risk  assessment that                                                               
would  then hook  in specific  recommendations for  the defendant                                                               
with  it.   She advised  that  75 percent  of defendants  offered                                                               
third-party  custodian  conditions  were   unable  to  meet  that                                                               
condition,  possibly due  to location  or the  background of  the                                                               
people they know  and; therefore, were never  released during the                                                               
pretrial period.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
UNKNOWN SPEAKER advised Chair LeDoux that Greg Razo was next.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREGORY  RAZO,  Chairman,  Alaska  Criminal  Justice  Commission,                                                               
advised that he  is a Vice President at Cook  Inlet Region, Inc.,                                                               
and has  been a lawyer  for 31 years in  Alaska, and that  he has                                                               
known Representative LeDoux for almost all  of that time.  He put                                                               
forth  that the  work on  the commission  has been  difficult and                                                               
time consuming  because the commission  was required to  review a                                                               
tremendous amount  of data.   At the end of  the day a  number of                                                               
things  came  out  as  to   the  drivers  of  the  Alaska  prison                                                               
population and themes the commission  used throughout the various                                                               
recommendations.   He advised, the recommendations  are supported                                                               
by scientific  evidence, and  are actually  contrary to  what the                                                               
average  person would  believe, which  goes to  Lieutenant Sell's                                                               
statements.   He  related that  one of  the most  striking things                                                               
that occurred  during the commission was  during the commission's                                                               
rural outreach.   He advised that he is the  Alaska Native member                                                               
of the  commission and has  been working with justice  issues for                                                               
Alaska Natives  for many years.   In conjunction with  the Alaska                                                               
Mental  Health   Trust  in  November,   the  commission   had  an                                                               
opportunity to  visit Nome and  Kotzebue, and while in  Nome, the                                                               
Commissioner  of Corrections  invited the  commissioners to  tour                                                               
Anvil  Mountain Correctional  Center, and  during the  second day                                                               
they  met with  prisoners  in  a town  hall  meeting  and he  was                                                               
allowed to ask  questions.  He advised that during  the first day                                                               
he was almost ashamed  to be there as an Alaska  Native man as he                                                               
walked through.  He described  approximately eight cells strictly                                                               
for  people for  Title 47  offenses, for  offenses that  were not                                                               
criminal at  all, and the cells  were mostly full and  were there                                                               
because they were  a danger to themselves or  others. He surmised                                                               
that  the Department  of Corrections  was treating  mental health                                                               
problems in the  prisons by simply locking people up.   They next                                                               
visited the two  mods inside the prison where  the prisoners were                                                               
locked up.   He doesn't know  what he was expecting,  he related,                                                               
but he realized that everyone in  the prison was an Alaska Native                                                               
person, with the exception of two  non-Native people.  He said he                                                               
couldn't  believe it  and people  were  playing cards,  sleeping,                                                               
watching television,  and were there  for serious issues  or they                                                               
wouldn't be there.  The  prisoners were not dealing with anything                                                               
other than killing  time in prison, which he described  as such a                                                               
waste  to have  people that  are potentially  useful people  just                                                               
being warehoused  in this zoo out  in the woods.   The commission                                                               
also saw  the people living in  Nome and Kotzebue and  he advised                                                               
that Alaska has  tremendous amounts of qualified  people with the                                                               
desire and will to work  with the population that is intoxicated,                                                               
but they do not have the resources  to do it.  He referred to the                                                               
town hall  meeting and  asked prisoners to  raise their  hands if                                                               
they  were incarcerated  due to  an alcohol  related offense  and                                                               
everyone in  the prison with  the exception of six  people raised                                                               
their hands.   He  then asked  prisoners to  raise their  hand if                                                               
they  were imprisoned  due to  a  drug related  offense, and  the                                                               
other six people raised their hands.   He offered that Alaska has                                                               
an addiction  problem with such  significance that it  is costing                                                               
millions and millions  and millions of dollars  in the Department                                                               
of  Corrections  (DOC),  yet  little  is  done  to  pay  for  the                                                               
treatment of that problem.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO related that a lot of  time was spent on the report, and                                                               
he described  the legislation as the  tip of the iceberg  as much                                                               
as it  is an omnibus criminal  reform bill.  He  pointed out that                                                               
there  were  so  many  issues  that  were  not  part  of  justice                                                               
reinvestment  that are  still on  the plate  for the  commission.                                                               
The  commission has  been asked  to look  at all  of the  Title 4                                                               
offenses,  the  alcohol  related offenses,  which  have  criminal                                                               
sanctions  associated with  them.   Also,  the  Title 28  driving                                                               
offenses, and the barriers to  reentry which is probably the most                                                               
significant part  of what the  commission really needs to  dig in                                                               
on.  He  referred to the barriers to people  coming out of prison                                                               
that include  the fact that  they can't  drive, can't get  a job,                                                               
can't  find treatment  in the  areas they  are from,  and all  of                                                               
those issues  are still  on the commission's  plate, and  he will                                                               
make sure that the commission gets to the end of that.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:14:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO  turned to  "Recommendation 5: Limit  the use  of prison                                                               
for lower-level  misdemeanor offenders,"  and said  that research                                                               
shows that short jail stays  do not reduce recidivism compared to                                                               
probation.  He offered that sending  someone to jail will make it                                                               
more  likely they  will become  a criminal  again.   He remarked,                                                               
"Compared  to  defendants  sentenced  to  probation,  individuals                                                               
sentenced to short  jail stays of probation  have a significantly                                                               
higher likelihood of future arrest  and incarceration.  Even when                                                               
you  control  for  other  variables.     The  average  crime  and                                                               
increasing effect of jail remain  statistically significant."  He                                                               
pointed out  that it is  true in  all of recommendations  5a, 5b,                                                               
5c,  and  5f, particularly  within  recommendation  5c, which  is                                                               
reclassifying first and second time  theft offenses under $250 as                                                               
non-jailable  misdemeanors.    He reiterated  that  the  research                                                               
shows  that  jail  space doesn't  reduce  recidivism,  more  than                                                               
probation  does, and  can increase  it.   In 2014  the commission                                                               
looked at  it as a  benchmark and  noted that 324  offenders were                                                               
admitted to  prison for  theft in  the fourth  degree which  is a                                                               
misdemeanor theft under  $50.  More than half  of those offenders                                                               
stole goods under  $50, and that offenders convicted  of theft of                                                               
less than $250 stayed an average of 23 days behind bars, post-                                                                  
conviction.  He pointed out that  23 days in jail for a low-level                                                               
misdemeanor theft  crimes that are  not violent,  or particularly                                                               
dangerous.   He discussed  that 82  percent of  prison admissions                                                               
are misdemeanors, 60 percent of  those prison admissions are non-                                                               
violent misdemeanors,  and that  the state has  a limited  use of                                                               
prison  alternatives  outside  of   probation.    Therefore,  the                                                               
commission looked  at the  alternatives that can  be placed  on a                                                               
person  in  addition  to  probation,  in  addition  to  community                                                               
supervision,  such as  electronic monitoring,  the use  of fines,                                                               
and other  sanctions that don't  cost as much as  sending someone                                                               
to jail.   He stressed  that cost is not  the driver here  but in                                                               
September the commission received  letters from the leadership of                                                               
both houses  and the  governor asking the  commission to  look at                                                               
what it would  take to avert future prison growth  and reduce the                                                               
prison population  by 15 percent  and 25  percent.  He  said that                                                               
just to reduce  future prison growth is 1,416 beds,  to reduce it                                                               
by 15 percent is 2,180 beds,  and 25 percent, which is the number                                                               
used in the  commission's report, it is 2,689  beds.  Significant                                                               
changes  need to  come from  these recommendations  and from  the                                                               
legislature's  work on  HB 205  to accomplish  this if  the state                                                               
will actually see a reduction  in Alaska's prison population, and                                                               
it must be followed by reinvestment, he expressed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO  noted, with regard  to driving while  intoxicated (DUI)                                                               
offenders in  5e, the  research reveals  that jail  sentences are                                                               
associated with  higher recidivism rates and  prison alternatives                                                               
even  when controlling  for  differences  among offender  groups.                                                               
Therefore,  a short  sentence for  a  DUI offender  has a  higher                                                               
chance  of resulting  in recidivism  for  doing it  again.   This                                                               
finding   is  consistent   for   offenders   with  multiple   DUI                                                               
convictions  and he  stressed that  the jail  isn't the  sanction                                                               
that's working.   He described himself as a  businessman and when                                                               
two out  of three  people coming  out of prison  will go  back to                                                               
prison within three years, the  state is not getting reduction in                                                               
public safety,  and "we're not  doing any corrections,  we're not                                                               
doing corrections in  the corrections department."   The best DUI                                                               
responses  emphasize  replacement  of  jail time  with  low  cost                                                               
monitoring  programs, the  use of  community based  interventions                                                               
like  electronic  monitoring   and  intensive  probation  provide                                                               
better  treatment  results  because  the offender  can  learn  to                                                               
adjust their consumption within  their normal living environment.                                                               
He  pointed out  that DUI  misdemeanor offenders  comprise almost                                                               
one-fourth of  all post-conviction admissions to  prison in 2014.                                                               
The state needs to target  misdemeanor DUI offenders as they come                                                               
back  to prison  at a  higher rate,  so what  the state  is doing                                                               
doesn't work.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:21:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO  turned to "Recommendation  6: Revise drug  penalties to                                                               
focus  the   most  severe  punishments   on  higher   level  drug                                                               
offenders," and  explained that  research across  multiple states                                                               
with meta-analysis  reveals that  longer stays  in prison  do not                                                               
reduce recidivism  more than shorter  prison stays.  There  is no                                                               
significant  effect of  longer prison  stays  on recidivism,  and                                                               
sending someone  to longer and  longer terms in prison  by itself                                                               
does nothing  to reduce recidivism.   Some studies  revealed that                                                               
severe  punishment such  as felony  convictions and  prison terms                                                               
actually increase  criminogenic effects  causing offenders  to be                                                               
more likely to  commit crimes, which is true  for drug offenders.                                                               
He  said that  admissions to  prison post-conviction  felony drug                                                               
offenses have increased by 52 percent,  driven in large part by a                                                               
68 percent  of simple possession  of drugs in the  fourth degree,                                                               
and felony drug  offenders are spending 16  percent longer behind                                                               
bars.   The  conclusion of  the  statistics is  exactly what  the                                                               
commission said, the science simply  does not support the way the                                                               
state is  doing things right now,  he said.  Research  shows that                                                               
the  13 states  plus the  District of  Columbia classifying  drug                                                               
possession as a misdemeanor have  slightly lower rates of violent                                                               
crime,  property  crime,  and  drug  use  than  the  states  that                                                               
classify  drug  possession  as  a felony,  and  Alaska  needs  to                                                               
consider this research.  The  commission recommends a revision of                                                               
the classification of commercial drug  offenses in that there are                                                               
two types  of drug dealers, the  ones that sell a  small quantity                                                               
of drugs  to support  their drug habit,  and then  the commercial                                                               
people in  the drug business  to make thousands and  thousands of                                                               
dollars.   He said  the demarcation  of commercial  drug offenses                                                               
recommendation attempts  to deal with  that.  He  reiterated that                                                               
long prison  sentences for commercial  drug offenders have  a low                                                               
deterrent  value, the  chances of  someone actually  being caught                                                               
for selling  drugs is 1  in 15,000, and with  such a low  risk of                                                               
detection  drug  dealers are  unlikely  to  be dissuaded  by  the                                                               
remote  possibility of  a longer  stay in  prison.   Some studies                                                               
have  shown that  severe punishment,  such as  felony convictions                                                               
and  prison  terms,  may  have   criminogenic  effects  which  is                                                               
especially true of drug offenders.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:26:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO turned to  "Recommendation 7: Utilize inflation-adjusted                                                               
property thresholds,"  and stressed  that there is  absolutely no                                                               
relationship between the value of  the felony theft threshold and                                                               
whether a person is going to  steal.  States that have raised the                                                               
felony  theft  threshold have  actually  seen  reduction in  some                                                               
small amounts in  the rate of theft; therefore, it  does not make                                                               
an  offender less  likely to  commit  a crime  by increasing  the                                                               
prison stay.   In  Alaska, he pointed  out, admissions  to prison                                                               
after conviction  for theft  in the  second degree,  between $750                                                               
and  $25,000, has  grown by  52 percent,  and the  research shows                                                               
that  nationwide the  felony  theft threshold  has  no impact  on                                                               
property crime and larceny rates.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:27:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAZO  turned  to "Recommendation  8:  Align  non-sex  felony                                                               
presumptive  ranges with  prior presumptive  terms," and  offered                                                               
that  "In 2005,  the Alaska  Supreme Court  issued a  case called                                                               
Blakely, --  Blakely v.  State and in  the Blakely  decision, the                                                         
way  that  Alaska was  doing  presumptive  sentencing was  tossed                                                               
out."   [Blakely v.  Washington, 542 US  296 (2004).]  The Alaska                                                             
legislature,  in an  attempt to  deal with  that court  decision,                                                               
rather  than giving  a specific  presumptive sentence,  imposed a                                                               
range of  sentences.  The intent  was not to increase  the amount                                                               
of time that people would stay  in prison, but in looking back 10                                                               
years, has been exactly what happened  with the change in the law                                                               
in  2005.     The  recommendation  attempts  to   roll  back  the                                                               
legislature's actions  so that  Alaska can at  least get  back to                                                               
the way  it was in  2005, and control  this increase seen  in the                                                               
courts in long prison sentences.   He reiterated that long prison                                                               
sentences  don't reduce  recidivism  any more  than short  prison                                                               
sentences do.   He  pointed out  that since  the 2005  shift, the                                                               
felony  length of  stay  has  increased by  31  percent, class  A                                                               
felonies - right  below the most serious  unclassified felonies -                                                               
have gone up by 80 percent,  class B felonies have increased by 8                                                               
percent,  and class  C  felonies have  increased  by 17  percent.                                                               
Consequently, what  happened is exactly what  the legislature did                                                               
not  want to  have happen  with the  change in  law in  2005, and                                                               
asked  the committee  to  take  a hard  look  at this  particular                                                               
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:29:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO turned  to "Recommendation 9: Expand  and streamline the                                                               
use of  discretionary parole," and  advised the  commission found                                                               
that only  a small amount of  people in prison were  applying and                                                               
appearing before the  Parole Board for discretionary  parole  The                                                               
commission  assumed  prisoner  were  not  applying  because  they                                                               
believed  they would  be unsuccessful.    Although a  substantial                                                               
number  of  offenders  currently  spending  time  in  prison  are                                                               
eligible for  discretionary parole  they are not  applying, which                                                               
means that in  any given month in 2014 an  average of 462 inmates                                                               
were eligible  for discretionary parole,  and an average  of only                                                               
14.8 applied and parole hearings were held.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:31:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAZO turned  to "Recommendation  10:  Implement a  specialty                                                               
parole option  for long-term, geriatric  inmates," and  said this                                                               
is  for offenders  who have  the potential  to be  paroled beyond                                                               
probation at  age 55.   He offered that  it simply costs  a great                                                               
deal  of money  to keep  people  in prison  at this  age and  the                                                               
chance of them  reoffending is very, very small.   Evidence shows                                                               
that  these people  simply  do not  reoffend  at any  significant                                                               
rate, and  this recommendation gives  the legislature  the option                                                               
to take action  so the prisoners can be  considered for specialty                                                               
parole.  He  noted that researchers have  consistently found that                                                               
age is  one of the  most significant predictions  of criminality,                                                               
with criminal or delinquent activity  peaking in late adolescence                                                               
and  decreasing as  people age.   In  Alaska, he  said, offenders                                                               
released  at  age  55  and  older were  far  less  likely  to  be                                                               
rearrested  than  the  average  for  all  offenders.    Geriatric                                                               
inmates are a  costly population to incarcerate,  he related, and                                                               
nationwide prisons  spend approximately  two to three  times more                                                               
to  incarcerate  geriatric   inmates  than  younger  individuals.                                                               
Further,  he pointed  out, the  number of  offenders in  Alaska's                                                               
prisons age  51 and older has  doubled in the past  10-years, and                                                               
he described it as the fastest  growing age group.  The baby-boom                                                               
population is expanding  as expected, and in  2005, 410 offenders                                                               
were age 51 and older, in 2014 that number jumped to 833.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAZO turned to "Recommendation  11: Incentivize completion of                                                               
treatment  for sex  offenders with  an earned  time policy,"  and                                                               
related  that,  "believe it  or  not,"  the evidence  shows  that                                                               
treatment of sex  offenders works.  He  described this population                                                               
as  "really easy  to hate  on for  very sound  reasons," but  the                                                               
state  wants this  population  who is  ultimately  coming out  of                                                               
prison  to  not  offend  again  for public  safety  and  no  more                                                               
victims.  He  remarked that if the state  provided more treatment                                                               
for  this  population,  both  in  prison  and  out  with  intense                                                               
community  supervision, he  opined  there will  be a  significant                                                               
increase  in public  safety, less  victims, and  less recidivism.                                                               
The Alaska Judicial Counsel's studies  on recidivism in 2008-2009                                                               
in Alaska found that sex  offenders had substantially lower rates                                                               
of  rearrests within  one year  than other  offense groups.   The                                                               
same study, he  noted, found that sex  offenders were reconvicted                                                               
for a new  sex offense within two  years at a rate  of 2 percent.                                                               
Sex offenders today are staying  in prison 86 percent longer than                                                               
they did 10-years  ago because the state has been  tough on crime                                                               
on sex  offenders and the results  are as a person  would expect,                                                               
if the  state is going to  increase the length of  sentences then                                                               
there will be a  lot of sex offenders in jail  for a longer term.                                                               
He  pointed out  that  the state  is just  beginning  to see  the                                                               
effects  of the  tough on  crime on  sex offenders,  and it  will                                                               
continue to increase for a number of years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:35:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT   SELL  turned   to   "Recommendation  12:   Implement                                                               
graduated  sanctions  and  incentives," and  explained  that  the                                                               
graduated   sanction  incentives   could  allow   the  state   to                                                               
relentlessly address the problems  people have going into prison,                                                               
and whether  or not the subject  is coping with those.   She said                                                               
the  encouragement  is  for   swift,  certain,  and  proportional                                                               
responses, similar to  raising children and their deaf  ears to a                                                               
punishment in the far future.   When trying to influence behavior                                                               
at  the beginning  of people's  lives,  consequences to  behavior                                                               
have to be swift, certain, and  proportional.  She said that when                                                               
speaking  with people  addicted to  drugs, they  are thinking  at                                                               
most in  four hour increments because  that is when they  need to                                                               
use again.   She said that  telling them they had  better not use                                                               
because if  they do, in  6-12 months they  may have to  serve the                                                               
rest of  their sentence, doesn't  mean anything.   Therefore, she                                                               
pointed out, the emphasis is  on swift, certain, and proportional                                                               
sanctions, and allowing for both  positive and negative sanctions                                                               
because incarceration  is only  one tool in  the toolbox  and the                                                               
commission is  trying to add  additional tools for  the graduated                                                               
sanctions and incentives.  This  recommendation requires a lot of                                                               
work on the part of the  Department of Corrections.  She stressed                                                               
that the department is staffed by  really good people who want to                                                               
make a difference, who know their  jobs, and know the people they                                                               
are caring for  in the Department of Corrections.   She suggested                                                               
the  possibility of  giving them  enough resources  to have  more                                                               
tools to influence that behavior."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL  turned  to   "Recommendation  13:  Reduce  pre-                                                               
adjudication length of stay &  cap overall incarceration time for                                                               
technical violations  of supervision," and  said this is  part of                                                               
the swift,  certain, and proportional  consequences because  if a                                                               
person does  something they  shouldn't be doing  there will  be a                                                               
consequence,  and   then  another   consequence,  and   then  the                                                               
consequences will continue to ratchet  up.  She acknowledged that                                                               
it  is difficult  for officers  to be  taunted by  felons on  the                                                               
Probation Accountability  and Certain Enforcement  (PACE) program                                                               
who says  "Yeah, I made  a mistake I'll  see you in  three days."                                                               
She said that it can have  an emotional reaction and even so, the                                                               
fact  is that  swift,  certain, and  proportional sanctions  that                                                               
happen  immediately   have  to  be  better   than  random  severe                                                               
sanctions.  She stressed that  it doesn't make sense that leaving                                                               
everything up to chance wouldn't  encourage people to gamble with                                                               
what the outcome might be when violating their probation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:39:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL turned to "Recommendation  14: Establish a system                                                               
of earned  compliance credits," and  described it as part  of the                                                               
positive  sanctions  in that  if  a  person complies  with  their                                                               
probation, if  they do the things  they are supposed to  do, they                                                               
can earn compliance  credits because there must  also be positive                                                               
tools as  well as negative.   All of the studies,  she said, show                                                               
that people respond  best if positive rewards can  be involved in                                                               
a system, and people checking in  with the court, "bloom in court                                                               
when they  get to say  I had 30 days  where I didn't  do anything                                                               
that was  prohibited, I  have been  off drugs  or alcohol  for 30                                                               
days."   There  is a  pride in  that which  helps to  establish a                                                               
sense of pride  and hope, whereas the  most common characteristic                                                               
of  people  not doing  well  with  incarceration in  the  current                                                               
justice system all have a lack of hope, she pointed out.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL turned  to  "Recommendation  15: Reduce  maximum                                                               
lengths  for  probation  terms and  standardize  early  discharge                                                               
proceedings,"  commented that  she  struggled with  this but  the                                                               
science  is clear  that for  the  most part  people will  violate                                                               
probation  in   the  first  year,   and  recidivism   is  usually                                                               
frontloaded.  The  dollar becomes less productive  the longer the                                                               
person is on probation and the  state is putting that effort into                                                               
supervision,  she said.   The  recommendation  was difficult  for                                                               
her, she noted, but the science had to supersede.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:41:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL  turned to "Recommendation  16: Extend  good time                                                               
eligibility   to  offenders   serving  sentences   on  electronic                                                               
monitoring,"   and   characterized   this  as   the   traditional                                                               
electronic monitoring as one of  things that "if not prison, then                                                               
where, if  not jail then  where."  She explained  that electronic                                                               
monitoring  is working  with people  while they  try to  maintain                                                               
their jobs, maintain their family  commitments, and do the things                                                               
that are protective  factors for them rejoining  the community as                                                               
a productive member.  Yet, it  doesn't just trust them to behave,                                                               
she remarked.  This is an  alternative and, she commented, it can                                                               
be turned  into a  positive incentive  for good  time; therefore,                                                               
the commission  recommended increasing electronic  monitoring and                                                               
good time associated with it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL advised she would  skip Recommendation 17 because                                                               
it is not in the bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:42:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRACE  ABBOTT,  Staff,  Representative Charisse  Millett,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, advised  Lieutenant Sell  that Recommendation                                                               
17 is HB 205, Version H.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:42:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL   turned  to  "Recommendation  17:   Focus  ASAP                                                               
resources  to improve  program effectiveness,"  and advised  that                                                               
alcohol  treatment resources  were discussed  because alcohol  is                                                               
overwhelmingly  the  substance  abuse   drug  of  choice  filling                                                               
Alaska's  prisons.   The commission  found there  are not  enough                                                               
resources  in  the  state's  alcohol  treatment  and  not  enough                                                               
alcohol  treatment available  for the  people ready  to take  the                                                               
step  of  getting off  alcohol,  she  said.    The intent  is  to                                                               
increase alcohol  resources and provide  direction as to  who the                                                               
state is  sending to alcohol  court.   She noted there  have been                                                               
occasions  when people  addicted to  drugs were  sent to  alcohol                                                               
treatment because there  was not a more appropriate  place to put                                                               
them.     Therefore,  it  would   necessary  to   review  defense                                                               
categories associated with the alcohol programs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL  turned to "Recommendation 18:  Improve treatment                                                               
offerings in  CRCs and  focus use of  CRC resources  on high-need                                                               
offenders," and  advised that Crisis  Recovery Center  (CRCs) are                                                               
commonly known  as half-way houses.   The commission's  intent is                                                               
to makes  CRCs more  effective by  continuing the  treatment and,                                                               
she  suggested, considering  the treatment  as being  a continuum                                                               
through  the arrest  and  incarceration.   A  risk assessment  is                                                               
performed at  the time  of arrest  that identifies  that person's                                                               
criminal  drivers,   and  those  are  addressed   throughout  the                                                               
incarceration and as the person  transfers into the community and                                                               
essentially  practices  being a  law  abiding  citizen with  some                                                               
supervision, and the last step is  often the half-way house.  She                                                               
explained  that  the  commission  would  like  to  improve  those                                                               
outcomes by having treatment at  the half-way house because it is                                                               
known  that  it is  not  a  "30-day  and done"  proposition  when                                                               
discussing getting a person off  drugs, or alcohol, or managing a                                                               
mental  health  disorder,  or  two or  three  of  those  factors.                                                               
Having the treatment  available in the half-way  house and making                                                               
sure   the  contracted   half-way   houses   are  meeting   those                                                               
obligations with  an admission criteria  that puts  the resources                                                               
where the  risk is, she  explained.  It  is also known  that when                                                               
mixing  high-risk and  low-risk  offenders in  the same  half-way                                                               
house,  the high-risk  offenders teach  criminal behavior  to the                                                               
low-risk  offenders  and,  in  essence,   recruiting  them  to  a                                                               
criminal life style, she pointed out.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL turned to "Recommendation  19: Require collection of                                                               
key  performance measures  and establish  an oversight  council,"                                                               
and   said   that  the   commission   did   not  want   to   base                                                               
recommendations on  statistics solely  from other states  and not                                                               
have  its own  way  to measure  whether it  was  having the  same                                                               
effect  in Alaska.   She  noted that  the state  currently has  a                                                               
Criminal Justice Commission set up  that is very invested in what                                                               
is  being  done  and  stressed  that it  makes  sense  that  that                                                               
oversight  council stays  in place  whether it  is this  Criminal                                                               
Justice Commission  or another  one.   She further  stressed that                                                               
there must be  a group coming together  regularly, collecting the                                                               
key  performance   measures  and   making  modifications.     She                                                               
described  this  as  the  first  step in  this  process  and  the                                                               
commission expects  it would  come back  and review  what worked,                                                               
didn't work,  and make modifications through  the legislature and                                                               
statutes moving forward.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL  turned to  "Recommendation 20:  Ensure policymakers                                                               
are aware of the impact  of all future legislative proposals that                                                               
could   affect   prison   populations,"  and   noted   that   the                                                               
recommendation addresses the modification  area in that sometimes                                                               
there  is  a  "knee  jerk" reaction  based  upon  something  that                                                               
happened.  In the event the  state increases sentences or makes a                                                               
change,  it  would  require  a   10-year  fiscal  impact  [study]                                                               
prepared in  order to ascertain  the impact on the  prison growth                                                               
and population.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STANFILL  turned to "Recommendation 21:  Advance crime victim                                                               
priorities," and described  it as definitely not the  last of the                                                               
recommendations,  or  one  that  can  be  done  without,  because                                                               
victims, and victim's rights are  at the forefront.  The ultimate                                                               
goal is to  lower recidivism rates so less  people are committing                                                               
crimes, thereby, less victims.   She informed that committee that                                                               
information was  researched, meetings  took place  throughout the                                                               
state, plus  the commission hosted  two round-tables in  order to                                                               
advance victims'  priorities.   The recommendation  requires that                                                               
the  district  attorney's  office  make a  focused  and  enhanced                                                               
effort  to increase  the number  of crime  victims signed  on for                                                               
court notifications  through Victim Information  and Notification                                                               
Everyday (VINE).   Another recommendation included  reviewing and                                                               
revising policies and procedures  related to inmates' phone calls                                                               
because now  that inmates must  pay for  their phone calls  it is                                                               
harder  for inmates  to call  people  they shouldn't  call.   She                                                               
offered  that many  of the  recommendations  can be  accomplished                                                               
through  regulation  and  not  through  statute.    Further,  she                                                               
explained, not  specifically within this recommendation  but tied                                                               
to it are the reinvestment priorities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:50:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANFILL said,  as a  victim  advocate for  20-years, it  is                                                               
scary to think of letting people  out of jail, and that she still                                                               
has a  bit of a knee-jerk  reaction even though she  has seen all                                                               
the data.  There is  a 2010-2015 victimization study, she opined,                                                               
that  revealed  the $3  million  investment  and prevention  that                                                               
focused  on domestic  violence and  sexual  assault and  reducing                                                               
victimization against  women actually  had an 8  percent decrease                                                               
in  victimization  which  related  to  3,000  less  instances  of                                                               
victimization last year.   She suggested putting  $1 million into                                                               
prevention  efforts may  be a  huge number,  but the  legislature                                                               
consider  that   none  of  this  works   unless  considering  the                                                               
reinvestment  priorities.    She   explained  that  part  of  the                                                               
reinvestment is  pretrial, and part  of that must  be prevention.                                                               
She referred to how the state  is working with victim services in                                                               
remote  and bush  communities, noting  that transportation  is an                                                               
issue,  getting  a  sexual  assault  exam,  getting  out  of  the                                                               
community in a  manner that the victim's  confidential rights are                                                               
still protected.  She included  access to treatment because it is                                                               
known that  the prime time  for treatment is when  something just                                                               
happened, the person is arrested  knowing they have a problem and                                                               
want help yet,  unfortunately, there is a six-month  wait just to                                                               
receive an  assessment.  She  added, with regard  to reinvestment                                                               
priorities, to  be certain when  people are released  from prison                                                               
that they actually  have a reentry support system  services.  She                                                               
said she  looks forward to  the crafting of this  bill discussing                                                               
reinvestment.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL  turned to  the last slide  and advised  that her                                                               
comments  relate  to  the question,  "What  were  you  thinking?"                                                               
Sometimes people get  into trouble and they can't  figure out how                                                               
to navigate the  system to get a driver's  license back, possibly                                                               
can't  afford  some of  the  restrictions,  such as  requiring  a                                                               
breath test  to start their car,  and end up driving  revoked and                                                               
driving  suspended.    She  estimated   that  the  Juneau  Police                                                               
Department probably  cites driving revoked or  driving suspended,                                                               
based on a different crime, two  or three times every single day.                                                               
The limited  driver's license  is often  necessary for  people to                                                               
maintain  employment, especially  in  communities without  public                                                               
transportation or shift work, and it  will allow them to live law                                                               
abiding  lives  instead of  the  "stacking  and steamrolling"  of                                                               
offenses when a  restriction is put on someone  contrary to their                                                               
ability  to  make a  living  and  support  their families.    The                                                               
administrative license revocation has  to do with the possibility                                                               
of a  person not being  found guilty.   Currently, she  said, the                                                               
Department of Motor  Vehicles takes the driver's  license away on                                                               
DUIs, and maybe that is not  appropriate.  She offered that there                                                               
is a sense  of justice that if the person  is not convicted, that                                                               
possibly  the license  should not  go  with it,  even though  she                                                               
knows  many people  that are  guilty and  yet are  not convicted.                                                               
She turned  to the issue of  food stamps, and offered  that there                                                               
were  many discussions  as  to  whether a  person  with a  felony                                                               
conviction should ever get food  stamps.  She remarked that while                                                               
she understands  the cynicism  that food  stamps can  be diverted                                                               
just like  drugs to  get people  off heroin  can be  diverted, is                                                               
denying people food  really the way to get them  to address their                                                               
higher  level problems.   Maslow's  Hierarchy of  Needs and,  she                                                               
asked, if a  person doesn't have food or shelter,  do they really                                                               
do  things to  make them  more valuable  to the  community.   She                                                               
pointed out  that denying  food is difficult  and she  was unsure                                                               
whether  it was  done to  change  behavior as  much as  "possibly                                                               
making ourselves feel better because  we've punished somebody who                                                               
was doing  wrong, and  maybe that's  not the  best motive."   The                                                               
commission also has some ideas  about the reentry program and Ms.                                                               
Abbott would explain.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ABBOTT  advised that the reentry  program is a concept  as to                                                               
how to direct the Department  of Corrections (DOC) to help people                                                               
to reenter the community, to  become functioning and contributing                                                               
members  of  their  community.    It  requires  that  DOC  assist                                                               
reentering inmates to  come up with a plan, and  instruct them on                                                               
resources  available  in the  community  for  things like,  state                                                               
identification.  She noted that some  of these may fall under the                                                               
food  and  shelter  requirement,  but are  helpful  in  assisting                                                               
people with reentry.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:57:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL  referred to community  work service  and advised                                                               
that  many offenders  are ordered  into  community work  service,                                                               
especially  low-level  offenders  and   if  an  inmate  does  not                                                               
complete their community  work service, they go back  to jail for                                                               
certain periods.  She described  that as "overly generous of us,"                                                               
and  opined  that  the  state   shouldn't  house  them  to  watch                                                               
television  and take  naps  for not  doing  their community  work                                                               
service.  She  suggested reverting it to a  fine, thereby, saving                                                               
the state money with the potential  to bring in money rather than                                                               
continually  spending it  on those  not  meeting their  low-level                                                               
obligations.   Therefore, she explained,  there is  a consequence                                                               
and the state currently spending $142  per day is not the correct                                                               
consequence.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN surmised  that CRCs  are places  the state                                                               
can more  effectively use  for pretrial  release, and  also where                                                               
the  person receives  sentencing credit  in the  pretrial release                                                               
treatment  programs.     He  asked   whether  that  is   part  of                                                               
Recommendation 18.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN restated his  question at Lieutenant Sell's                                                               
request,  and   noted  there  have  been   different  discussions                                                               
throughout  the year  in the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                               
regarding  sentencing credit  for pretrial  release in  different                                                               
programs.    He asked  whether  Recommendation  18 is  where  the                                                               
committee should look  to as to how those programs  play into the                                                               
whole  dynamic  of  improving   the  effectiveness  of  community                                                               
rehabilitation programs, and in reducing recidivism.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT   SELL  asked   for   clarification   as  to   whether                                                               
Representative   Claman   was   asking  whether   the   community                                                               
rehabilitation treatment  program could reside within  a half-way                                                               
house.  She asked whether she had misunderstood the question.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN offered  that there  are half-way  houses,                                                               
not run by DOC, such as  the Clitheroe Center in Anchorage, where                                                               
people  are often  released pretrial  and are  ultimately seeking                                                               
sentencing  credit while  in the  rehabilitation  program.   With                                                               
regard to  Recommendation 18, he  asked whether that is  where HB
205 addresses some of those questions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL referred  to  Recommendation  18b and  responded                                                               
that it  adopts quality assurance  procedures ensuring  that non-                                                               
DOC CRCs meet  contractual obligations with regard  to safety and                                                               
offender  management, so  treatment could  play into  that.   She                                                               
noted the  issue of not  mixing high-risk and  low-risk offenders                                                               
together,  any  more  than  mixing  those  offenders  for  people                                                               
already released from a prison.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:02:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  referred to  driver's licenses  and people                                                               
committing  criminal  alcohol   offenses,  losing  their  license                                                               
entirely  and their  ability to  go to  work.   He asked  how the                                                               
state  balances  not  having  people  drive  intoxicated  with  a                                                               
penalty  of  not being  able  to  drive,  yet  at the  same  time                                                               
recognizing that if they don't go  to work it creates another set                                                               
of problems.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL pointed to the  limited driver's license and said                                                               
that  currently   it  is  "addressed  under   temporary  driver's                                                               
license, even  after somebody is  arrested for the  first 10-days                                                               
they can  apply for  a hearing  and ask  to be  able to  drive to                                                               
work, ask for  a limited access."  In that  manner, the person is                                                               
given  an option  to be  law  abiding instead  of the  constantly                                                               
racking up driving revoked and driving suspended charges.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN pointed  to the  administrative revocation                                                               
and  opined that  it is  an unfortunately  common experience  for                                                               
those charged  with DUI, "is they  ... they show up  in court and                                                               
they  do all  these  things  and then  they  start getting  these                                                               
letters   from   DMV   saying  how   their   license   is   being                                                               
administratively  revoked.   And  I  think  on the  criminal  law                                                               
enforcement side ... I share your  favorite ... the fact that you                                                               
like administrative  revocation because some people  who probably                                                               
were driving intoxicated  ... while intoxicated are  able to find                                                               
technical  ways  to  get  around the  criminal  charge  and  they                                                               
usually   don't   really   follow   carefully   enough   on   the                                                               
administrative  charge   and  they  get  their   license  revoked                                                               
anyway."    From the  offender  standpoint,  the dual  system  of                                                               
criminal  charges  and   administrative  charges  are  incredibly                                                               
confusing  to the  public in  that they  do not  follow the  same                                                               
tract and do  not communicate with each other.   He asked whether                                                               
Recommendation 18  assists people in navigating  with some degree                                                               
of certainty.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:05:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL related that, "As  a famous jurist once said, our                                                               
system is designed to let nine  guilty people go free rather than                                                               
wrongly  convict one  innocent person."   She  said when  someone                                                               
stands on the  frontlines of watching that  happen, sometimes the                                                               
person feels  that "Okay, now that  I've got my hand  around your                                                               
throat, I'm  not letting  go" and  getting over  that is  a tough                                                               
journey, and she thanked Representative Claman for his patience.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN stated  that he is not  entirely clear that                                                               
is  the quote  he heard  from that  gentleman, but  he would  not                                                               
correct Lieutenant Sell.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  asked  Chair  LeDoux  whether  she  would                                                               
consider  bringing up  Jordan Shilling  and Ken  Truitt, who  are                                                               
staff to  Senator Coghill and  himself, who were in  the trenches                                                               
with the  commission, with the  idea of asking them  whether they                                                               
have something  that the  presentation of the  bill was  weak on.                                                               
He advised  that he  does not have  anything specifically  on his                                                               
mind.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JORDON  SHILLING,  Staff,  Senator  John  Coghill,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, was available.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:06:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN  TRUITT,  Staff,  Representative  Wes  Keller,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, was available.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING  advised that he  did not have anything  specific to                                                               
include.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER replied,  "That's  great so  that way  she                                                               
knows we weren't  passing notes back and forth,  it's just honest                                                               
inspiration."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TRUITT  commented that  working as  staff to  the legislative                                                               
representatives  on   the  commission,  it  was   surprising  and                                                               
heartening to  see, with the  broad spectrum of interests  at the                                                               
commission, how well everyone worked  together.  Specifically, he                                                               
pointed out,  the defense side  working with the  law enforcement                                                               
side was  heartening and  encouraging to see,  witness, and  be a                                                               
part of,  with the professionalism  that every member  brought to                                                               
the table.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL pointed  to  Commissioner  Quinlan Steiner,  the                                                               
defense  attorney  on  the  commission, and  offered  he  may  be                                                               
helpful with questions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  referred to Recommendation  9, and                                                               
noted that  he was impressed  with the comment that  sex offender                                                               
treatment  is highly  successful statistically.   He  ask her  to                                                               
expound  on the  methods  and  whether that  type  of success  in                                                               
reducing recidivism  or re-violation relates to  other classes of                                                               
criminality.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL deferred  to another  commissioner stating  that                                                               
she has  deferred to the science  of the matter, but  she spent a                                                               
good portion  of her career  hunting sex offenders.   She related                                                               
that  it is  difficult  for her  and  another commissioner  could                                                               
articulate it better.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING advised that sex  offender treatment is proven to be                                                               
effective  and   that  the  Washington  State   Policy  Institute                                                               
prepared a  cost benefit analysis  on sex offender  treatment and                                                               
it shows  that for every  dollar spent on sex  offender treatment                                                               
there  is a  good return  for that  money.   He will  provide the                                                               
research.  Basically, he advised,  sex offenders in Alaska have a                                                               
lower recidivism  rate than  most cohorts  of offenders,  and the                                                               
Alaska  Judicial  Council  conducted  a study  showing  that  the                                                               
recidivism  rate  for  sex  offenders  is  18  percent,  and  the                                                               
recidivism  rate for  a  repeat sex  offense  is approximately  2                                                               
percent.   He described  the program as  arduous and  the longest                                                               
most difficult  program in the DOC  path.  It takes  18-30 months                                                               
to complete  and not everyone  does complete  it, so in  order to                                                               
incentivize that  treatment the  commission recommended  a credit                                                               
for  sex  offenders  who  complete   that  program,  knowing  the                                                               
treatment is effective.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX pointed  out that  there are  various types  of sex                                                               
offenders such  as the  18-year old  charged with  statutory rape                                                               
with a 15-year old, but also the  18-, or 25-, or 45-year old who                                                               
may be charged  with having sex with a 2-year  old or 3-year old.                                                               
She pointed out  that those are very different  crimes, and asked                                                               
whether the  analysis is for  both of  those crimes, in  that she                                                               
has heard that the research states  that people with a 2-year old                                                               
and 3-year old can never be rehabilitated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING opined that the  recidivism numbers he recited apply                                                               
to  sex offenders  across the  board,  and he  will research  the                                                               
commission as  to whether it  has data specific on  the different                                                               
types of  offenses.   He agreed  that sex  offenses cover  a very                                                               
broad spectrum in  that some are the Romeo  and Juliet scenarios,                                                               
and some  are incredibly  heinous acts  that many  people believe                                                               
that those individuals cannot be rehabilitated.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  advised  she  would  like  additional  information                                                               
regarding that particular area.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHILLING added  that the  policy the  commission recommended                                                               
did not differentiate between the  two extremes, it recommended a                                                               
pure  policy with  the understanding  that the  legislature would                                                               
scrutinize it.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  reiterated   that  she  would  like   to  see  the                                                               
statistics between those two types because it is important.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  pointed out  there is  a treatment                                                               
program that appears  to work extremely well for  a certain class                                                               
of  offense, and  asked  whether for  other  classes of  criminal                                                               
offenses  why  there  are  treatment programs  or  if  there  are                                                               
treatment  programs  that  the  state is  not  using,  that  have                                                               
similarly successful statistical  outcomes in reducing recidivism                                                               
or recommitting criminal activity.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SHILLING responded that DOC  has a variety of programing that                                                               
research has  shown works which includes  sexual abuse treatment,                                                               
substance   abuse  treatment,   and   mental  health   treatment,                                                               
although, he does  know what portion of DOC's  budget consists of                                                               
treatment.   He offered that  DOC completed a recidivism  study a                                                               
few  years ago  showing  that substance  abuse treatment  reduced                                                               
recidivism by 21 percent, so it's  effective.  It is important to                                                               
know  that  with  the  state's   current  fiscal  climate  it  is                                                               
difficult to reinvest in things  like treatment if the savings is                                                               
not found  in other areas.   In other  words, he said,  the state                                                               
needs to quit spending so much  on things that the research shows                                                               
doesn't  work, and  start spending  it on  things known  to work,                                                               
such as treatment.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:14:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS commented that  he is interested in                                                               
the concept of  social impact bonds that  basically tie long-term                                                               
savings treatments  with an alignment  of fiscal incentives.   He                                                               
asked  whether the  commission explored  social impact  bonds and                                                               
its use  within Rikers Island,  New York, or  other jurisdictions                                                               
in the United States.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHILLING replied  that the  commission did  not specifically                                                               
discuss social  impact bonds as  the commission was  very outcome                                                               
focused, as  those bonds are,  and offered  that he is  aware New                                                               
York is having success with those bonds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  referred   to  Recommendation  10                                                               
wherein it  was noted  that the  geriatric population  within the                                                               
prisons is the  fastest growing population, and  asked whether it                                                               
is attributable  to younger people  sentenced with  longer prison                                                               
terms  and getting  old in  prison, or  because older  people are                                                               
being arrested.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:16:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHILLING  pointed  out  that   the  reason  is  due  to  the                                                               
legislature increasing sentences across  the board, whether it be                                                               
low-level or high-level  felonies.  Therefore, he  said, there is                                                               
a stacking up in the  state's older prisoners, and that geriatric                                                               
prisoners cost two to three times  as much as most inmate, yet it                                                               
is  known that  those prisoners  are the  least likely  to commit                                                               
crime  with the  lowest  recidivism  rate.   He  opined that  the                                                               
geriatric growth is due to  increased sentences for sex offenses,                                                               
and  increased sentences  for  class  A, B,  and  C felonies  all                                                               
across the board.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX recommended that the  committee members direct their                                                               
questions to the commissioners today while they are available.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN referred to  the distinction between sexual                                                               
abuse of a minor offenses  and sexual assault offenses which tend                                                               
to involve adults  and asked how those  breakdown into successful                                                               
treatment.    He opined  that  adult  on adult  sexual  assaults,                                                               
especially with  more than  one sexual  assault on  their record,                                                               
that their ability to rehabilitate tends  to be "quite poor."  He                                                               
reiterated that  sexual abuse of  a minor offenses  in teen-agers                                                               
is very  different than  a 50-year  old and a  5-year old  and he                                                               
would be interested to know the breakdown.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX reminded  Representative Claman  that Mr.  Shilling                                                               
said he would provide the committee with research.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked for more detail in the research.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:19:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  referred to Recommendation  2 that                                                               
created a matrix  of risk scores for pretrial  release, and asked                                                               
whether it  is based  upon something  executed in  another state,                                                               
and further  asked for examples  of a  risk criteria that  may be                                                               
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL advised that she  could answer the first question                                                               
and explained that  it is based upon experiences  in other states                                                               
in  that "we  did  not make  up  anything, we  did  not get  that                                                               
original, we  wanted to  use ...  tactics that  had been  used in                                                               
other states so  that we could see how they've  been impacted ...                                                               
how  those  states had  used  those."    She continued  that  the                                                               
commission reviewed  a risk assessment tool  currently being used                                                               
with the potential of altering  it for Alaska's application.  She                                                               
explained  that states  that executed  a  major criminal  justice                                                               
reformation are using the risk  assessment tool, such as Georgia,                                                               
South  Dakota,  Kentucky,  Mississippi,   and  others.    A  risk                                                               
assessment  tool  has been  a  cornerstone  because those  states                                                               
achieved anywhere from  9 percent to 21 percent  savings in their                                                               
incarceration costs, she said.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRY  SCHUSTER, Senior  Associate,  The  Pew Charitable  Trusts,                                                               
explained that with  regard to pretrial risk  assessment, the two                                                               
types of  failure measured include:  failure to appear  for court                                                               
hearings, and  new criminal activity  during the  pretrial period                                                               
between arrest and  verdict which is generally a  short period of                                                               
time and  most people during that  time do not fail.   Therefore,                                                               
pretrial  failure  rates  are  low which  makes  them  harder  to                                                               
predict, and  the predictive issues  tend to be static  factors -                                                               
things  that  don't  change.   For  example,  reviewing  criminal                                                               
history or  court records to  determine prior failures  to appear                                                               
in court that  would make them higher-risk and  thus extra weight                                                               
would be attached.  Different  jurisdictions will execute a study                                                               
to  determine who  is  failing pretrial,  who  is committing  new                                                               
criminal activity  pretrial, who is  failing to appear  for their                                                               
hearings, and  what do  they have  in common,  and he  noted that                                                               
those  studies will  be different  jurisdiction to  jurisdiction.                                                               
The idea  behind creating a  risk assessment tool,  he explained,                                                               
is to take  Alaskan data and attempt to identify  what it is here                                                               
that might  be predictive  of pretrial failure  and then  build a                                                               
risk tool  around that.  Once  a risk assessment tool  is created                                                               
it  must  be  validated  year-after-year  to  ascertain  that  it                                                               
continues to be predictive, he said.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS acknowledged  that the risk factors                                                               
differ from  jurisdiction to jurisdiction and  requested examples                                                               
of  risk  factors identified  in  another  jurisdiction, such  as                                                               
Mississippi, Georgia, or South Dakota.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:23:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHUSTER  corrected the  record and advised  that not  all of                                                               
those states  have pretrial risk  assessment tools  because there                                                               
are various  types of  risk assessment  tools, such  as measuring                                                               
risk  of   long-term  recidivism,   so  something  that   may  be                                                               
predictive  of   recidivism  over  multiple  years   may  not  be                                                               
predictive  of  pretrial failure.    In  other states  there  are                                                               
factors  related  to  someone  having a  prior  certain  type  of                                                               
offense,   for   example,  a   prior   theft   offense  in   some                                                               
jurisdictions  may be  predictive of  pretrial failure,  he said.                                                               
There are jurisdictions  have an interview with  the defendant to                                                               
receive social  history, such  as ties to  the community,  and in                                                               
some  jurisdictions  ties  to  the  community  is  predictive  of                                                               
pretrial  success, and  in others  it has  not been  found to  be                                                               
predictive  of  pretrial  success.    He offered  that  it  is  a                                                               
difficult question  to answer  on the spot  without looking  at a                                                               
data set.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:25:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  referred to driving  under the influence  (DUI) and                                                               
asked whether the  idea is to eliminate the  automatic 3-days for                                                               
the first offense.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  SELL   opined,  not  necessarily  because   when  the                                                               
commission discussed not having  the administrative revocation it                                                               
was in  the context of  a case being  dismissed, or a  person not                                                               
being prosecuted, or found not guilty.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ABBOTT explained  that  the  goal is  not  to eliminate  the                                                               
automatic  3-days, "administrative  revocations, like  Lieutenant                                                               
Sell  mentioned, would  refer to  only people  who the  court has                                                               
decided  deserves  their license  back."    This allows  the  two                                                               
branches of  government to  communicate and  for the  Division of                                                               
Motor Vehicles (DMV) to offer the license back.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX advised that her question  was not in the context of                                                               
license  revocation,  but  on  DUIs.     She  referred  to  prior                                                               
testimony wherein  it was  stated that  with minor  offenses jail                                                               
did not  work.   Therefore,  she was wondering whether  this bill                                                               
eliminates the 3-days for the first DUI offense.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ABBOTT answered  that the  goal is  to encourage  electronic                                                               
monitoring in those cases.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  commented that when  she lived in Kodiak  and drank                                                               
with  other young  professional  people and  possibly drank  more                                                               
than now,  the idea of  actually going to  jail for 3-days  was a                                                               
humiliation and that  it actually did deter a lot  of people from                                                               
having that last drink, or they took the cab.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  agreed  that  it was  a  deterrent,  and                                                               
opined that the deterrent of a  restricted license is also a fear                                                               
because  there  are  jobs  wherein the  employee  cannot  have  a                                                               
restricted license.   She  said the  committee could  discuss the                                                               
whole limited  versus restricted conversation, but  that is still                                                               
part of the DUI process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX pointed  out that  the discussion  is that  when it                                                               
comes  to licenses,  the state  does not  want to  require things                                                               
that make people lose their jobs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:29:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT SELL  offered that she  understands what  Chair LeDoux                                                               
is expressing  and that she is  not sure that the  person getting                                                               
their  name in  the paper  plus an  ankle monitor  on for  3-days                                                               
"would necessarily be  a lot more fun than going  to the half-way                                                               
house for a lot of ... DWIs  are served now over weekends so that                                                               
people's employment is  not compromised."  She  said she respects                                                               
the fact  that Chair  LeDoux is  among the  20 percent  of people                                                               
that actually think about cause and  effect at the time of making                                                               
those  decisions.   She suggested  leaving other  consequences in                                                               
place as she does not want the  first DWI to be painless, but the                                                               
issue can be addressed for less than $142 per day.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:30:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN,  in response  to Chair  LeDoux's question,                                                               
opined  that  there are  no  proposed  changes  to Title  28  and                                                               
removing the 3-day mandatory minimum.   Today, he commented, if a                                                               
person is convicted  of DUI and sentenced to  the 3-day mandatory                                                               
minimum some  people are  being sentenced to  house arrest  on an                                                               
electronic monitor  for 3-days.   Those that  do not go  on house                                                               
arrest are  generally serving it  in half-way houses  rather than                                                               
lock-up facilities,  especially first-timers.   In terms  of work                                                               
management it is "pretty manageable with a job," he opined.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN offered that he  was surprised because he had                                                               
the concept that 3-days in  jail meant 3-days incarcerated behind                                                               
the bars  rather than  an ankle  monitor or  a half-way  house to                                                               
relax.   He asked whether typically  a person does not  go behind                                                               
bars but rather an ankle monitor of a half-way house.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
QUINLAN STEINER, Director, Public  Defender Agency, Department of                                                               
Administration,  advised that  currently  there  are options  for                                                               
serving the  mandatory 3-days not  in a prison setting,  it could                                                               
be on  electronic monitoring or in  a half-way house.   Also, DOC                                                               
has the option  to place a person on electronic  monitoring or in                                                               
a  half-way house.   He  noted that  it tends  to get  set up  in                                                               
advance if  the person has money  and the facilities to  do that.                                                               
He opined that the penalties,  even though it is not specifically                                                               
a  jail  sentence  in  a DOC  facility,  are  fairly  significant                                                               
penalties  because   the  costs  are  extremely   high,  and  the                                                               
restrictions on  a license can  be dramatic and  influence future                                                               
employment and, in fact, it  can often end a person's employment.                                                               
He  noted  that  some  of the  initiatives  discussed  about  the                                                               
license  and  limited  license  will allow  people  to  meet  the                                                               
conditions of their  probation and sentence to  promote their own                                                               
rehabilitation while  maintaining their employment.   He stressed                                                               
that  employment is  a significant  factor for  future recidivism                                                               
and the lack of it is one of the things the commission found.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  asked whether it  is the prerogative  of the                                                               
judge to sentence a person behind  bars as compared to a half-way                                                               
house, or is it statute or regulation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEINER  advised that  the judge will  set the  sentence, the                                                               
statutes guide how it can be  served.  Under the statute it could                                                               
be permissible  now to obtain  electronic monitoring, or  DOC has                                                               
its own regulations and permissive scheme, he explained.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  whether anyone  on the  commission had  ever                                                               
served time and then was rehabilitated.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN asked  whether Chair  LeDoux was  asking for                                                               
confessions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX expressed  no, the  idea  is that  someone who  has                                                               
actually been through  the system may have  something valuable to                                                               
offer.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:34:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREGORY  RAZO,  President,  Alaska Criminal  Justice  Commission,                                                               
replied that that fact never came up.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  interjected that  the  fact  did come  up                                                               
after the fact,  and the commission realized  the difficulties in                                                               
the obvious  logistics of  it and  making it  work, was  too late                                                               
once the  commission "got rolling."   He opined that most  of the                                                               
commissioners received  a steady stream of  letters from inmates,                                                               
with some  letters being quite  articulate and some  letters with                                                               
very interesting points.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:35:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX referred  to geriatric inmates and the  cost of that                                                               
population,  and noted  that  when a  person  serves 25-years  in                                                               
prison and is  released when they turn 50, will  it actually cost                                                               
any less  because once  they are  on the  street again  they will                                                               
require medical  care and they  probably do not possess  many job                                                               
skills.  She  expressed that she is not suggesting  that the cost                                                               
by  itself is  a reason  to  keep someone,  who is  not going  to                                                               
commit a crime again, in prison  but is it actually a cost saving                                                               
measure.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHUSTER responded that it  is a difficult question to answer                                                               
and offered that  some of the costs for  anyone incarcerated are,                                                               
room  and board,  food, everyday  housing, paying  for heat,  and                                                               
everyday costs  of operating a  facility where a group  of people                                                               
live.     Constitutionally,  he   put  forth,  when   someone  is                                                               
incarcerated the state  must pay for all  necessary medical care;                                                               
therefore,  when an  inmate  is diagnosed  with  cancer or  liver                                                               
failure or any number of health  issues, the state pays for their                                                               
treatment.  These  types of health issues are seen  more often in                                                               
inmates over the age of 50  or 60, and those costs start stacking                                                               
up  and  when those  groups  of  inmates  are released  into  the                                                               
community  they   almost  always  qualify  for   Medicaid  and/or                                                               
Medicare.    Therefore, a  lot  of  those  costs  are paid  by  a                                                               
combination of  state and federal  dollars, but a lot  is covered                                                               
by  federal dollars  and  the $142  incarceration  costs are  not                                                               
spent.  He pointed  out that it is hard for  people who have been                                                               
incarcerated for long  periods of time to  actually reenter their                                                               
community and  be successful  because those  people may  not have                                                               
strong family  connections any  longer that  are willing  to take                                                               
them back  in.  He  noted that part  of the reentry  planning for                                                               
the commission,  which DOC has been  doing on its own  aside from                                                               
the commission's recommendations,  is attempting to individualize                                                               
a  reentry  plan for  each  person.    For example,  each  inmate                                                               
reentering the  community must  come up with  their own  plan and                                                               
identify  their needs  and  what will  help  them have  long-term                                                               
success in  the community, he  said.  In  order for people  to do                                                               
well at reentry and have  long-term success they actually need to                                                               
come  up  with an  individualized  plan.    He pointed  out  that                                                               
reinvestment  is a  large area  when discussing  reentry supports                                                               
and services,  such as how  to get a  person to a  reentry center                                                               
and connect them  with the services they need, and  to partly pay                                                               
for it by finding the money elsewhere.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:39:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  said she understands  the cost of housing,  and was                                                               
pointing out  that whether the  state pays for  cancer treatment,                                                               
or liver failure, or heart disease,  or anything one might end up                                                               
with after  a certain age, that  there is probably a  good chance                                                               
the state will also pay for it when they are on the outside.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  opined that at  age 65 a person  can receive                                                               
Medicaid and/or  Medicare, and asked whether  an incarcerated 65-                                                               
year old person is eligible.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHUSTER   responded  that  eligibility  for   Medicaid  and                                                               
Medicare  is suspended  during incarceration  and the  state pays                                                               
their health care.   Although, he said, the exception  is that if                                                               
someone  is hospitalized  outside  of a  prison  setting and  are                                                               
there for  more than 24-hours,  that service  can be paid  for by                                                               
Medicaid and Medicare revenue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  opined  that  with  Medicaid  expansion  it  would                                                               
include prisoners, but maybe not.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  clarified  that Medicaid  expansion  does                                                               
cover  prisoners   when  they  are   in  the  hospital   and  not                                                               
incarcerated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked  that when a person  outside the prison                                                               
is on  Medicare and commits  a crime, whether they  lose Medicare                                                               
at that time.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHUSTER  answered yes, the  person loses  their eligibility.                                                               
The  state   is  self-insured   and  everyone  in   state  prison                                                               
facilities has  health care and  prescriptions provided  by state                                                               
health care providers,  such as contract medical  services in the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  moved to the sectional  analysis after ascertaining                                                               
there were no further questions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:43:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ABBOTT offered a written  analysis and paraphrased as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Citation v. Arrest:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 42                                                                                                                 
     12.25.180 - When Peace Officer  Shall Issue Citation or                                                                    
     Take Person before the Court (Amended)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Establishes a presumption to cite  and summons to court                                                                    
     for nonviolent misdemeanors and  class C felonies, with                                                                    
     exceptions  including  significant  danger to  self  or                                                                    
     others,  and  specified   crimes.  For  infractions  or                                                                    
     violations,  provides that  a peace  officer may  bring                                                                    
     the person  before a  judge if the  violation is  for a                                                                    
     violation of  conditions of  release or  for disorderly                                                                    
     conduct.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 43                                                                                                                 
     12.25.180 -  When Peace Officer  May Issue  Citation or                                                                    
     Take Person Before the Court (New Section)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Forbids civil action for damages  for failure to comply                                                                    
     with this section.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 44                                                                                                                 
     12.25.190(b) - When Person to  be Given Five-Day Notice                                                                    
     to Appear in Court (Amended)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Reduces the  minimum duration, when issued  a citation,                                                                    
     before  the  first appearance  from  five  days to  two                                                                    
     days.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 45                                                                                                                 
     12.25.190 - When person to  be given five-day notice to                                                                    
     appear in court. (New section)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Requires  that a  notice  to appear  is  at least  five                                                                    
     working days after the issuance of a citation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Risk-Based Release Decision Making:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 41                                                                                                                 
     12.25.150(a)   -  Rights   of  prisoner   after  arrest                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Decreases  time  with  which  arrested  person  appears                                                                    
     before  the court  from 48  to 24  hours. Bars  hearing                                                                    
     from taking place 48 hours after arrest.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 46                                                                                                                 
     12.30.006(b) - Release Procedures (Amended)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms to renumbered statutes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 47                                                                                                                 
     12.30.006(c) - Release Procedures (Amended)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Requires  judicial review  and  reconsideration of  the                                                                    
     conditions   of  release   for   instances  where   the                                                                    
     defendant   is   detained   pre-trial  due   to   those                                                                    
     conditions,  unless  the  judicial officer  finds  that                                                                    
     less restrictive  release conditions  cannot reasonably                                                                    
     ensure  the  appearance  of the  person  in  court  and                                                                    
     safety   of  the   victim,  other   persons,  and   the                                                                    
     community.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 48                                                                                                                 
     12.30.006(d) - Release Procedures (Amended)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Allows  for   defendant's  inability   to  pay   to  be                                                                    
     considered  as a  factor to  at  bail review  hearings.                                                                    
     Specifies that  a defendant may  only receive  one bail                                                                    
     review  hearing for  new  information  relating to  the                                                                    
     person's inability to pay.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 49                                                                                                                 
     12.30.006(f) - Release Procedures (Amended)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to creation  of a  pretrial services  office,                                                                    
     authorizing  a pretrial  services officer  to arrest  a                                                                    
     person without a warrant for violating a court order.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 50                                                                                                                 
     12.30.006(h) - Release Procedures (New Subsection)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Directs the  first appearance to occur  within 24 hours                                                                    
     after    a    person's   arrest    absent    compelling                                                                    
     circumstances.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 51                                                                                                                 
     12.30.011 - Release Before Trial (Amended)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Limits   judicial  discretion   to   detain  low-   and                                                                    
     moderate-risk  pretrial  defendants charged  with  non-                                                                    
     violent,  non-DUI  misdemeanors and  low-risk  pretrial                                                                    
     defendants  charged with  non-violent, non-DUI  Class C                                                                    
     felonies.   This  section prevents  the use  of secured                                                                    
     monetary bail for  lower-risk defendants while ensuring                                                                    
     conditions  can be  imposed  to  require defendants  to                                                                    
     refrain from alcohol consumption,  to avoid all contact                                                                    
     with  victims,  and  to keep  regular  contact  with  a                                                                    
     pretrial   services  officer.     In   determining  the                                                                    
     conditions  of release,  the court  shall consider  the                                                                    
     conditions  of  release  recommended  by  the  pretrial                                                                    
     services  officer   and  the  person's   pretrial  risk                                                                    
     assessment score.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 52                                                                                                                 
     12.30.011 - Release Before Trial (New Subsection)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Creates   a   presumption   of  release   on   personal                                                                    
     recognizance  or   unsecured  bond,   with  appropriate                                                                    
     release  conditions, for  low-risk  defendants and  for                                                                    
     most   nonviolent  misdemeanor   and  Class   C  felony                                                                    
     defendants  who are  not included  in  Section 54.  The                                                                    
     court   can  overcome   this   presumption  and   order                                                                    
     partially- or  fully-secured money bond if  it finds on                                                                    
     the  record that  no  less  restrictive conditions  can                                                                    
     reasonably assure court appearance and public safety.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 53                                                                                                                 
     12.30.016(b) -  Release Before  Trial in  Certain Cases                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to creation  of a  pretrial services  office,                                                                    
     authorizing  a pretrial  services officer  to search  a                                                                    
     person's residence  for the  presence of  alcohol under                                                                    
     conditions to refrain from alcohol.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 54                                                                                                                 
     12.30.016(c) -  Release Before  Trial in  Certain Cases                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to creation  of a  pretrial services  office,                                                                    
     authorizing  a pretrial  services officer  to search  a                                                                    
     person's  residence for  the presence  of a  controlled                                                                    
     substance  under conditions  to refrain  from consuming                                                                    
     from  controlled substances.   A  judicial officer  may                                                                    
     order  a  defendant to  participate  in  a random  drug                                                                    
     testing program with  testing to occur at  least once a                                                                    
     week, or  random drug testing by  the pretrial services                                                                    
     division.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 56                                                                                                                 
     12.30.021(a) - Third-Party Custodians (Amended)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Restricts   availability   of   third-party   custodian                                                                    
     release   conditions  to   cases   in  which   pretrial                                                                    
     supervision is  not available,  secured money  bond has                                                                    
     not been  ordered, and no other  combination of release                                                                    
     conditions can  reasonably assure court  appearance and                                                                    
     public safety.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 57                                                                                                                 
     12.30.021(c) - Third-Party Custodians (Amended)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Changes the restrictions on people  who are eligible to                                                                    
     serve as  third-party custodians to prohibit  those who                                                                    
     are likely  to be  called as  witnesses, as  opposed to                                                                    
     those who may be called as witnesses.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 63                                                                                                                 
     12.55.051 -  Enforcement of Fines and  Restitution (New                                                                    
     Subsection)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Authorizes  the   Department  of   Law  to   garnish  a                                                                    
     permanent fund dividend  to collect restitution ordered                                                                    
     by the court.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 142                                                                                                                
     43.23.065(b) - Exemption of and  Levy on Permanent Fund                                                                    
     Dividends (Amended)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms to ensure that forfeiture  of an appearance or                                                                    
     performance bond  is not  exempted from  permanent fund                                                                    
     dividend garnishment                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Pretrial Supervision of High-Risk Offenders:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 99                                                                                                                 
     33.07.010 - Pretrial Services Program (New Section)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Establishes   a  pretrial   services  program   at  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Corrections  to conduct  pretrial  risk                                                                    
     assessments,   make   recommendations  to   the   court                                                                    
     regarding  release  decisions, and  supervise  pretrial                                                                    
     defendants who are released.   Directs the Commissioner                                                                    
     to adopt  a risk assessment tool  and relevant training                                                                    
     and regulations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Outlines  duties  of   pretrial  services  officers  to                                                                    
     conduct     pretrial     risk     assessments,     make                                                                    
     recommendations  to  the  court regarding  release  and                                                                    
     conditions  of  release,  and provide  supervision  for                                                                    
     defendants  released  pretrial.    Authorizes  pretrial                                                                    
     services   officers   to    make   pretrial   diversion                                                                    
     recommendations  and  to  arrest  defendants  who  have                                                                    
     failed to appear or violated their release conditions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Requires  pretrial   services  officers   to  recommend                                                                    
     release on personal recognizance  or unsecured bond for                                                                    
     nonviolent,  non-DV  misdemeanor  and  Class  C  felony                                                                    
     charges, low-  or moderate-risk DUI charges,  and other                                                                    
     low-risk  charges, with  limited options  for departing                                                                    
     from this requirement if  the pretrial services officer                                                                    
     finds that  no combination of non-money  conditions can                                                                    
     reasonably ensure court appearance and public safety.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 152                                                                                                                
     Uncodified Law                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Amendment  to Court  Rule  38 of  the  Alaska Rules  of                                                                    
     Criminal Procedure  providing for hearing  reminders to                                                                    
     defendants.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENTENCING:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Misdemeanors:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13                                                                                                                 
     11.46.460   -  Disregard   of  a   Highway  Obstruction                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Reclassifies  the  crime  of  disregard  of  a  highway                                                                    
     obstruction to  a violation punishable by  up to $1,000                                                                    
     fine.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22                                                                                                                 
     11.56.730(a) - Failure to Appear (Amended)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Conforming  to reclassifying  several  elements of  the                                                                    
     crime of  failure to appear  as a  violation punishable                                                                    
     by a fine up to $1,000.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23                                                                                                                 
     11.56.730(c) - Failure to Appear (Amended)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms failure to appear penalties  to no longer be a                                                                    
     Class C felony.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24                                                                                                                 
     11.56.730 - Failure to Appear (New Subsection)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Reestablishes the  punishment of failure to  appear, as                                                                    
     a Class A misdemeanor to  apply to defendants missing a                                                                    
     scheduled   hearing   to   avoid  prosecution   or   to                                                                    
     defendants not making contact with  the court within 30                                                                    
     days  after  not  appearing  at  a  scheduled  hearing,                                                                    
     Failure to appear  is a violation punishable  by a fine                                                                    
     up to $1,000                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25                                                                                                                 
     11.56.757(a)  -  Violation   of  Condition  of  Release                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to  the  reclassification  of  the  crime  of                                                                    
     violation of a condition of release to a violation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 26                                                                                                                 
     11.56.757(b)  -  Violation   of  Condition  of  Release                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Reclassifies  the crime  of violation  of condition  of                                                                    
     release  to a  violation  punishable by  a  fine up  to                                                                    
     $1,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 27                                                                                                                 
     11.56.759(a) -  Violation by Sex Offender  of Condition                                                                    
     of Probation (Amended)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms to renumbered statutes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 28                                                                                                                 
     11.61.110(c) - Disorderly Conduct (Amended)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms disorderly conduct penalty  to no longer be 10                                                                    
     days.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 29                                                                                                                 
     11.61.145(d)  -  Promoting  an Exhibition  of  Fighting                                                                    
     Animals (Amended)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Reclassifies the  crime of  attending an  exhibition of                                                                    
     fighting  animals   as  a  violation  for   the  second                                                                    
     offense.  Maintains third and  subsequent offenses as a                                                                    
     class A misdemeanor.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 30                                                                                                                 
     11.61.150(a) - Obstruction of Highways (Amended)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to  the  reclassification  of  the  crime  of                                                                    
     obstruction of highways to a violation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 31                                                                                                                 
     11.61.150(c) - Obstruction of Highways (Amended)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Reclassifies the crime of obstruction  of highways to a                                                                    
     violation punishable by a fine up to $1,000.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 32                                                                                                                 
     11.66.200(c) - Gambling (Amended)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Reclassifies  the  crime  of  unlawful  gambling  to  a                                                                    
     violation punishable by a fine up to $1,000.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 79                                                                                                                 
     12.55.135(a)   -   Sentences    of   Imprisonment   for                                                                    
     Misdemeanors (Amended)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Provides  for a  presumptive  range of  zero to  thirty                                                                    
     days for class A  misdemeanors, excepting offenses with                                                                    
     mandatory  minimums   above  thirty  days  or   if  the                                                                    
     conviction  is  for  crime of  assault  in  the  fourth                                                                    
     degree   involving   domestic  violence.   Allows   the                                                                    
     presumptive  range to  be overcome  if the  prosecution                                                                    
     proves that  the conduct  constituting the  offense was                                                                    
     the  most serious  included in  the  definition of  the                                                                    
     offense or the defendant  has past criminal convictions                                                                    
     similar in nature to the offense in question.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 80                                                                                                                 
     12.55.135(b)   -   Sentences    of   Imprisonment   for                                                                    
     Misdemeanors (Amended)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Truncates the maximum term of  imprisonment for a class                                                                    
     B misdemeanor to ten days.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 81                                                                                                                 
     12.55.135 - Sentences  of Imprisonment for Misdemeanors                                                                    
     (New Subsections)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Provides that  for a person  convicted of theft  in the                                                                    
     fourth degree,  concealment of merchandise,  removal of                                                                    
     identification  marks, unlawful  possession, issuing  a                                                                    
     bad check,  or criminal  simulation, the court  may not                                                                    
     impose a sentence  of more than five  days of suspended                                                                    
     imprisonment and a  term of probation of  more than six                                                                    
     months if the person  has previously been convicted two                                                                    
     or more times for  a similar theft-related offense. The                                                                    
     court may not impose a  sentence of active or suspended                                                                    
     imprisonment  if the  person  has  not been  previously                                                                    
     convicted or  has previously been convicted  once, of a                                                                    
     theft-related offense.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Provides that  the court may  not impose a  sentence of                                                                    
     imprisonment  of  more  than  24  hours  for  a  person                                                                    
     convicted or disorderly conduct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Provides  that for  a  person  convicted of  misconduct                                                                    
     involving a  controlled substance  in the  fifth degree                                                                    
     11.71.050(a)(4)  or misconduct  involving a  controlled                                                                    
     substance  in  the  sixth degree  11.71.060(a)(2),  the                                                                    
     court may not impose  a sentence of active imprisonment                                                                    
     unless the  person has previously  been convicted  of a                                                                    
     drug crime and  may not impose a  sentence of suspended                                                                    
     imprisonment greater  than 30  days, if the  person has                                                                    
     no prior convictions,  and no greater than  180 days if                                                                    
     the  person has  been  previously convicted  of a  drug                                                                    
     crime.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Provides that if  the state seeks to  establish a fact-                                                                    
     based  aggravating  factor  at sentencing,  the  factor                                                                    
     must be  established by  clear and  convincing evidence                                                                    
     before the court sitting without  a jury.  If the state                                                                    
     seeks to  establish a  law-based aggravating  factor at                                                                    
     sentencing,  the factor  must be  presented to  a trial                                                                    
     jury and  proved beyond a reasonable  doubt, unless the                                                                    
     defendant  waives  trial  by jury,  stipulates  to  the                                                                    
     existence  of  the factor,  or  consents  to allow  the                                                                    
     court  to   establish  the  aggravator  by   clear  and                                                                    
     convincing evidence without a jury.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 86                                                                                                                 
     28.15.291(a)   -   Driving  While   License   Suspended                                                                    
     (Repealed and Reenacted)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms   to  section   87  by   differentiating  DWLS                                                                    
     offenses related  to DUI license revocations  and those                                                                    
     unrelated to DUI license revocations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 87                                                                                                                 
     28.15.291(b)   -   Driving  While   License   Suspended                                                                    
     (Repealed and Reenacted)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Reduces  the mandatory  minimum  for  second time  DWLS                                                                    
     offenders whose  license revocation  is related  to DUI                                                                    
     offenses  to 10  days.   Removes the  mandatory minimum                                                                    
     for first time DWLS  offenders whose license revocation                                                                    
     is related  to DUI offenses.   Reduces the  penalty for                                                                    
     non-DUI-related DWLS offenses from  a misdemeanor to an                                                                    
     infraction.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 89                                                                                                                 
     28.35.030(k)   -  Operating   a   Vehicle…  Under   the                                                                    
     Influence (Amended)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Requires first-time DUI offenders  to serve a mandatory                                                                    
     term   of   electronic  monitoring.   If   unavailable,                                                                    
     imprisonment is determined by the department.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 90                                                                                                                 
     28.35.030(l)   -  Operating   a   Vehicle…  Under   the                                                                    
     Influence (Amended)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms to  provisions requiring a fiscal  analysis of                                                                    
     legislation that causes an increase  or decrease in the                                                                    
     prison  population.   This recommendation  was removed,                                                                    
     making this conforming section unnecessary.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 92                                                                                                                 
     28.35.032(o)  -  Refusal  to Submit  to  Chemical  Test                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Requires  first-time refusal  to submit  to a  chemical                                                                    
     test   to  serve   a  mandatory   term  of   electronic                                                                    
     monitoring.      If    unavailable,   imprisonment   is                                                                    
     determined by the department.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 93                                                                                                                 
     29.10.200(21)   -  Limitation   of  Home   Rule  Powers                                                                    
     (Amended)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to the  requirement that  a municipality  may                                                                    
     not  proscribe  a  greater   penalty  for  a  municipal                                                                    
     ordinance than what  is imposed for a  state crime with                                                                    
     comparable elements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 94                                                                                                                 
     29.25.070(a) - Penalties (Amended)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Conforms  to the  requirement that  a municipality  may                                                                    
     not  proscribe  a  greater   penalty  for  a  municipal                                                                    
     ordinance than what  is imposed for a  state crime with                                                                    
     comparable elements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:57:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX interrupted  Ms. Abbott,  and  reminded Ms.  Abbott                                                               
that  the sectional  analysis is  contained within  each member's                                                               
packets.   She suggested,  rather than  reading what  the various                                                               
sections do,  to point  out anything  in particular  she believes                                                               
the committee should focus on.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ABBOTT  replied that  she  will  do whatever  the  committee                                                               
prefers, and  offered the  committee an  opportunity to  read the                                                               
analysis,  and mark  sections in  which there  are questions  for                                                               
subsequent  "deep dives"  into the  specific recommendations  and                                                               
specific sections within the report of 21 recommendations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  agreed with  Ms.  Abbott's  suggestion, and  asked                                                               
whether  anyone  had  questions  or  should  the  committee  hold                                                               
questions until the committee gets to those specific sections.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:58:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  noted that policy  calls will have  to be                                                               
made by the committee, and  those policy calls will self-identify                                                               
in  reviewing   the  sectional   analysis  that   references  the                                                               
recommendations.  She pointed out  there are statute changes that                                                               
may  be more  controversial than  others, such  as earned  credit                                                               
probation, sex  offender treatment program credit,  and the theft                                                               
threshold.    The  committee will  review  sections  that  "offer                                                               
members  more heartburn"  when discussing  "right  on crime"  and                                                               
criminal activity, she offered, as  there certainly will be push-                                                               
back on  the larger policy  questions.  She recommended  that the                                                               
committee review the documents and prepare questions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN said  he  compared  the committee  hearing                                                               
schedule with the  color coded sequence of how  these are grouped                                                               
together and there  is a remarkable connection  between the color                                                               
codes  and when  different issues  will be  discussed.   He noted                                                               
that this  is helpful  and that  the committee  does not  need to                                                               
hear  the "speed  version"  because  it will  be  looking at  the                                                               
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  thanked  Ms. Abbott  for  the  sectional  analysis                                                               
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[HB 205 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
ACJC Justice Reinvestment Report.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205
HB 205 - CS Version H.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205
HB 205 - Version H - Sectional Analysis Visual Aid.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205
HB 205 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205
Alaska Criminal Justice Commission Recommendations - Powerpoint.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205
HB 205 - Version H - Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 3/14/2016 12:30:00 PM
HB 205